Update
West Virginia: All sexual abuse and assault charges against a priest from Cincinnati who was expected to go on trial Monday have been dropped.
Reverend Robert Poandl was indicted on the charges in February.
According to Roane County Prosecutor Josh Downey, the judge dismissed the case late Friday afternoon. The judge ruled there were discovery issues that related to the medical records of the victim. The charges cannot be refiled in Roane County, according to the judge's ruling. The state now has 90 days to decide whether it wants to take the case to the West Virginia Supreme Court
This case was a travesty from the beginning. There was a lot more to the dismissal than "discover issues". There was an endless stream of inconsistencies and fabrications. The prosecutor should be emabarassed for having brought this case forward and ruining the reputation of a highly respected man.
ReplyDeleteThe only travesty of justice is that this case was set aside. father Bob Poandl has inspired multiple accusations of molestation and sodomy from children. When will Glenmary's and the rest of the Catholic church actually stand up for the children terrorized by this predator pedophiles. God blesses the children while the church seems to worry too much about its image. I have met Bob Poandl and he is as charming as they come. I have also met this victim and trust that his story of child rape is the truth. The games the defense played with the evidence is all a charade to call attention away from the actual crime. But then why wouldn't some "good ol' boys" protect "Father Bob". He is charming enough to convince parents to let their children travel with him. Tell me why would a grown man want to take a 10-year old on a road trip.
DeleteThe defense attorney wrote the "court's opinion". Does not seem justice was done. Looks like a whitewash.
DeleteRequest a copy of the hearing transcripts. Read them. You will then understand how this lie unfolded and how the Judge saw straight through it. The decision was just and will stand up to any scrutiny.
ReplyDeleteI have. It is sad what they did to that victim. All to protect a Father Bob, the Glenmary order, and the Catholic church. The lie is in the reason for dismissal.
DeleteI hope that his accuser ran up heavy debts against the expected several hundred thousand dollar payout. Great news. This is a good man and a holy priest who has been heartbroken by this case, God bless him.
ReplyDeleteThe accuser was a child when Poandl raped him. You are one sad sick pathetic person. This is not a good man at all. He is a predator who is being shielded by local authorities. Looks like new cases have popped up. I wonder how an innocent man could inspire multiple victims.
DeleteOh yeah..There was no "lottery win here". No one getting rich. A victime with NOTHING TO GAIN calling out the RAPIST PRIEST. The pedophile and his "old boy" West Virginia friends twisted the justice system to ensure more children suffer this ungodly fate.
I met Poandl when I was kid and this man is an honest and good guy.
DeleteI met him to an he is charming like Ted Bundy is charming. He is not a good guy!
DeleteThe only debt he ran up was that of the State of West Virginia's attempting to support his lies. They carry the financial burden of this liar. Until the judge ruled him a liar.
ReplyDelete"Discovery issues"---get your facts straight. This fabrication should never have gotten this far. Not one iota of fact, just some one "remembering" something happened to them almost 20 years ago and wanting a payout.
ReplyDeleteHow much are you paid by the Glenmary order or their attorney's? You are much too schooled in the PR and spin. You follow your talking points quite consistently and repeat them often. No wonder people don't want to come forward when a well oiled machine like this is what awaits them.
DeleteThe "courts opinion" was "prepared by Anita Ashley". So the defense lawyer wrote the language of that document? How is that fair? The whole argument is that the accusor "allegedly manipulated records", but there is no evidence to argue this, just opinion (written in the defense attorney's words). I wouldn't expect a young boy in the ER with a broken arm would be checked for possible rape.
DeleteWhoever you are, Joe, I'm praying for you. I'm glad I found this site, because I've known Fr. Poandl for years, and was praying for his complete vindication and for all the truth to come out. God brings good out of everything for those who love Him, and I hope part of that good will be your finding true life and true joy in the conversion of your wounded soul. With love in Jesus who loves you infinitely more and more truly than you love yourself!
ReplyDeleteI have met and broken bread with Father Poandl and I know just how charming he can be. That's what makes him a successful serial pedophile. God will bring a special hell to those who victimize the innocents among us, such as children. In the end God may forgive Poandl but I think asking a child he sodomized to forgive is beyond what is possible. He abuses a position of trust and destroys what is beautiful inside a child. I would be careful whom you put your faith in.
DeleteI'm glad the lies have been unmasked, and I can only hope that - in so far as it is possible - Fr. Bob's good name will be restored. It is only justice for the papers and internet to announce his vindication loud and clear, just as it announced his being accused. To my knowledge, there was a reporter who had been credentialled to report on the trial, and we can hope that he will give an accurate and in-depth report that will expose many of the accuser's lies, which have not yet become generally known, and which caused the judge to rule as he did and dismiss the case. Stay tuned.
ReplyDeleteJustice has been done!
ReplyDeleteReally? It was "prepared by Anita Ashley". So the defense lawyer wrote the language of the opinion for the judge? How is that fair?
DeleteThe whole argument is that the accusor "allegedly manipulated records", but there is no evidence to argue this, just opinion (written in the defense attorney's words).
I wouldn't expect a young boy in the ER with a broken arm would be checked for possible anal rape.
Sounds like the guy looking for a payout is going to have to payout himself now. I bet this defense was not cheap.
ReplyDeleteThis was criminal not civil. I am also curious what you think is worth the ridicule and horrible insults that you and those like you cast upon the victim. Do you really think any money would be worth it? This is an attempt to keep a predator from hurting anyone else. The church keeps putting him in positions where he can victimize another and another.
DeleteGuilty by implication? Guilty by accusation? Guilty by articles in a newespaper? Guilty by an article from an organzation who makes "snap" judgements, without knowing the true facts and ultimately defames a person's character? That doesn't serve justice.
ReplyDeleteGuilty because "Joe", sitting in Utah,has decided in this unfortunate era of wrongful behavior and violation of trust by some clergy that all are guilty even though some may be wrongfully accused?
Have you investigated the facts in this case, or simply published or connected something you've heard from someone else?
Even though the case was dismissed, justice was not served. If it were served the wrongful accuser would have to pay a price...and not simply walk away.
Do you know that...to know Fr. Bob is to love him? Step forward, get closer, Joe...you might learn something.
This is a terrible situation, yes! Fourteen months of a persons life has been negatively affected. Now, Joe, how is this made right? Don't you think that all the "hip shooting" and "snap" judgements should cease?
Well him rape of a ten year old has taken more than twenty years of his victim's life. I think the scariest thing you say is that "to know father Bob is to love him." "Knowing father Bob" is what the victim here did and he certainly was "loved". Look in the mirror in terms of your own snap judgement. Deciding the victim is out for money or has some other agenda is the worst form of prejudice and very much unchristian.
DeleteAnonymous - you're so ignorant!!! GUILTY BECAUSE HE DID IT!!!! AND - this case had NOTHING to do with money!!! This WILL be prosecuted at a HIGHER COURT now. To educate you: This is a CRIMINAL CASE, which involves prison time (which Bob Poandl WILL serve). There is a difference between a CIVIL CASE, which involves money and a CRIMINAL CASE, which involves society putting away EVIL. You have NO IDEA why this case was dismissed, do you? I DO. And the Defense Attorney did something illegal in the 11th hour and she will ALSO be punished next week. WTF is wrong with you??? Do you ACTUALLY BELIEVE PRIESTS DID NOT and ARE NOT molesting boys?!?!!? Good, go ahead and keep giving your money to the "church" to pay their lawyers $500+/hr so they can keep molesting boys!! You are SUPPORTING EVIL MEN MOLESTING CHILDREN - GLAD YOU CAN SLEEP!!!!
ReplyDeleteIt was dismissed because he wasn't even in the state at the time "it happened" and there was absolutely no proof at all to support the accusations. He IS a good man.
DeleteIt is a shame that children do not maintain better records of when prients like Poandl rape them. Are you at all interested in justice?
DeleteYes i agree that there are priests who have abused but Father Bob Poandl is an innocent man if you had met him like our community did you would know. I'm not surprised there wasnt much evidence because this is straight up defamation.
DeleteTammi,
ReplyDeleteWhere do you get your information?
Luke
Here is an additional link to a more in-depth story which goes into some of the evidence the defense lawyers had collected.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.thetimesrecord.net/front1.shtml
Oops, my first link didn't post! For all who wish to read it, here is the link to the Judge's decision:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.glenmary.org/Whats_new/2010/August/Court_Order_Dismissal.pdf
Obviously Tammi has no facts. Perhaps it would be better if she kept her bias, hate-filled OPINION to herself. Take the time to read what really happened in the link above. Liars who accuse wrongfully are still liars. Ignorance is no excuse for spouting lies and hate. Thank God that the judge saw the truth.
ReplyDeleteI hate to inform you my friend...you have no facts either and the hate you are spewing is aimed at the victim of child rape. There is no God in your words, only judgement and evil. Lets hide the pedophile so I can feel better about my religion.
DeleteAnon 9/1/2010
ReplyDeleteI am reporting facts. In my original post regarding Fr. Bob, I reported that he was facing certain charges, this was true. I didn't imply anything? I didn't accuse him of anything? I am in no position to determine his guilt or innocence. I promptly removed the original post and issued an update when the charges were dropped.
I am reporting facts, even if some people happen to find the facts uncomfortable or inconvenient, I refuse to sweep them under the carpet like our churches so often do.
Joe
Tammi, your brother's ORDER is now on the Glenmary site for all to see.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.glenmary.org/Whats_new/2010/August/Court_Order_Dismissal.pdf
The truth is now out there.
Tammi, Tammi, Tammi.....how is it that the rest of us know why the case was dismissed...and you can read the judges order/findings on the Glenmary Website as it was published on Friday of last week. Accept the facts and begin your own healing and letting go. Harboring such ill feelings and not recognizing the truth that is before you will only serve to keep you locked in your prison of misery for a long time. Move on with your life and let the healing for you and your family members.
ReplyDeleteSimply because you are the publicist or the consultant doing the publicists bidding, that the church and Poandl hired to clean his name. You have your talking points too well polished and you repeat them so well. It is sad when thousands of devout people donate to the church only to have their donations go to PR firms, lawyers, and anything else to hush away the predatory lifestyle of priests. There must be a special place in hell for those who defends such beasts.
DeleteSeeing that this site is being visited quite often, I thought I'd post a couple more links - Father has just been reassigned to active ministry, and also the Bishop of Tyler, TX, has issued a statement to the effect that no other charges were ever brought against Father in this diocese where he worked for 6 years. Peace and healing to all, including the accuser, whom we forgive from our hearts and pray for each day, as Father himself has done.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.glenmary.org/Whats_new/2010/August/Poandl_Ministry.pdf
http://www.dioceseoftyler.org/documents/StatementFrRobertPoandl083110.pdf
Your glib dismissal of the victims of Father Bob Poandl's victims is nothing but sad. You post two websites that have it in their own best interest to sweep such allegations under the rug. Jesus Christ would not be so swift is passing over the pain and hurt this man has brought to the "least of my brothers". here are a couple of NEW links to follow:
Deletehttp://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/priest-accused-of-sexual-abuse-relieved-of-duties
http://www.thecoastalsource.com/news/local/story/Claxton-priest-accused-of-sexual-misconduct/OQZPvr2c60yO-uiT_i0DNw.cspx
Hey Tammi, Waiting for your evidence, it is one week later, that the defence did something illegal at the 11th and that she will be punished. Hopefully, you have read the facts for the dismissal and realize that there was nothing illegal done, other than maybe a false accusation against an innocent man waas dismissed. I hope that DH and his family and that includes you will take a good hard look at what happened and see the pain of all involved and recognize it was not this priest that caused it. Begin you family healing now....and it can only begin by admitting to the truth and lettig go of the lie and pointing fingers at others. Let the healing begin,.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.cbsatlanta.com/story/16945999/priest-in-ohio-based-order-accused-of-misconduct
DeleteI want to voice my support of all victims of sexual abuse, and especially those who have the courage and strength to come forward and make public what happened to them. By doing so you are making our world a safer place and standing tall with others who have been inflicted with abuse that they in no way deserved.
ReplyDeleteI agree with the previous comment. We don't know what really happened in this case, and it appears that the defense got Fr Bob of the hook before both sides could be presented in front of a jury. I think the bottom line is that after all the cases of proven priestly abuse we have to take every case seriously and applaud individuals who are willing to come forth against a very powerful institution. Especially in a criminal case where money is not awarded.
ReplyDeleteDid I read the end of that court document PDF correctly. It was "prepared by Anita Ashley". So the defense lawyer wrote the language of that document? How is that fair? The whole argument is that the accusor "allegedly manipulated records", but there is no evidence to argue this, just opinion (written in the defense attorney's words). I wouldn't expect a young boy in the ER with a broken arm would be checked for possible rape. Sounds to me like they should just get the rest of those medical records and assemble a jury.
ReplyDeleteYes you read it correctly. The defense attorney wrote the "opnion". How fair is that?
Deletehttp://www.cbsatlanta.com/story/16945999/priest-in-ohio-based-order-accused-of-misconduct
Anon said..."The whole argument is that the accusor "allegedly manipulated records", but there is no evidence to argue this, just opinion"
ReplyDeleteWell...the whole case is that the defendant "allegedly committed a crime", but there is no evidence to argue this either. Just one man's word against another. Guess which man the judge believed?
Unfortunately in child rape cases victims are often bullied into silence by there attackers and by retoric such as the comments you all are posted. As a result, in these cases it is often one person's word against another's many years later. I think that the best chance of this case go in favor of the accusor is if another victim comes forward. Especially with the defense and all of you woking so hard on character assasignation.
ReplyDeleteI don't think that the judge "believed" Fr Poandl to be innocent or guilty. Rather he believed that full disclosure was not met. This was a ruling against the actions of the prosecution (whether purposeful or unwitting), not in favor of the defendents claim that he did not rape that child.
ReplyDeleteI want to know how many of you are associated with the legal defense. If you are I think that what you are doing here is dispicable.
ReplyDeleteBy "here" I mean in this blog/chat section, not being a defense lawyer. I of course believe that everyone deserves representation in court when accused of a crime.
ReplyDeleteAs an outsider, it appears as though everyone involved here was represented in court. The accuser by the prosecutor and the State Police investigator and the accused by the defense attorney. As I see it, the problem is that the accuser was determined by the court to be not trustworthy and to have manipulated evidence. Additionally, it appears as though the prosecutor failed to deliver on certain discovery issues. I see no "technicality" as mentioned here earlier. I've reviewed several SNAP releases and quotes in several large media outlets concerning this very case. It appears as though not only has SNAP requested that other victims come forward but the church has done so as well through the demands of SNAP. (Oddly enough I had never heard of SNAP or this Judy Block Jones, so I GOOGLED her. Good God, would you want someone pushing your cause and trying to do it legitimately and truthfully then find a video of her on YOUTUBE where she proudly refers to herself as a "SHIT STIRRER"? Not me.) I'm not talking about a simple request on an obscure web site somewhere. I'm talking about a front page or top of the hour news story, with pictures, from NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX and other major network affiliates and publications within large metropolitan areas with millions of viewers and readers, that this priest has presided in. Not one single person came forward. All of this is on the internet and easy to research. I don't see the problems that others see here. The problem I do see is that people who may have a legitimate claim will be silenced for fear of not being believed due to an individual such as this who has apparently lied. I’ll be interested to read your comments.
ReplyDeleteAs an outsider, it appears as though everyone involved here was represented in court. The accuser by the prosecutor and the State Police investigator and the accused by the defense attorney. As I see it, the problem is that the accuser was determined by the court to be not trustworthy and to have manipulated evidence. Additionally, it appears as though the prosecutor failed to deliver on certain discovery issues. I see no "technicality" as mentioned here earlier. I've reviewed several SNAP releases and quotes in several large media outlets concerning this very case. It appears as though not only has SNAP requested that other victims come forward but the church has done so as well through the demands of SNAP. (Oddly enough I had never heard of SNAP or this Judy Block Jones, so I GOOGLED her. Good God, would you want someone pushing your cause and trying to do it legitimately and truthfully then find a video of her on YOUTUBE where she proudly refers to herself as a "SHIT STIRRER"? Not me.) I'm not talking about a simple request on an obscure web site somewhere. I'm talking about a front page or top of the hour news story, with pictures, from NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX and other major network affiliates and publications within large metropolitan areas with millions of viewers and readers, that this priest has presided in. Not one single person came forward. All of this is on the internet and easy to research. I don't see the problems that others see here. The problem I do see is that people who may have a legitimate claim will be silenced for fear of not being believed due to an individual such as this who has apparently lied. I’ll be interested to read your comments.
ReplyDeletePersonally, I am not involved with the legal defense team. And I seriously doubt any member of the defense team would spend time on this board. I'm guessing most of us are what SNAP is most afraid of..an INFORMED public. And yes, I can tell Judy from SNAP is here by the misspellings and typos that seem to accompany most of her posts. Try spell check...then try a reality check!
ReplyDeleteThe fact is, Poandl is innocent until proven guilty. He was innocent before the misshandling of evidence, and he still is after.
ReplyDeletePoandl's defenders are trying to make it sound like the accuser was found guilty of fabricating the story, which is not accurate at all. But, with that said, Poandl is still innocent of all charges, and it doesnt look like that is going to change.
Joe
Check out YOUTUBE - search Judy Block Jones, watch the video where at the end she calls herself a "shit stirrer". What a piece of work! SNAP should be proud of her. Oh, and as for her spelling, you're absolutely right, her rage and anger obviously convulse through her fingers as she types and misses the correct keys.
ReplyDeleteMy earlier post did not remain, must have been too truthful to handle. here it is again:
ReplyDeleteAs an outsider, it appears as though everyone involved here was represented in court. The accuser by the prosecutor and the State Police investigator and the accused by the defense attorney. As I see it, the problem is that the accuser was determined by the court to be not trustworthy and to have manipulated evidence. Additionally, it appears as though the prosecutor failed to deliver on certain discovery issues. I see no "technicality" as mentioned here earlier. I've reviewed several SNAP releases and quotes in several large media outlets concerning this very case. It appears as though not only has SNAP requested that other victims come forward but the church has done so as well through the demands of SNAP. (Oddly enough I had never heard of SNAP or this Judy Block Jones, so I GOOGLED her. Good God, would you want someone pushing your cause and trying to do it legitimately and truthfully then find a video of her on YOUTUBE where she proudly refers to herself as a "SHIT STIRRER"? Not me.) I'm not talking about a simple request on an obscure web site somewhere. I'm talking about a front page or top of the hour news story, with pictures, from NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX and other major network affiliates and publications within large metropolitan areas with millions of viewers and readers, that this priest has presided in. Not one single person came forward. All of this is on the internet and easy to research. I don't see the problems that others see here. The problem I do see is that people who may have a legitimate claim will be silenced for fear of not being believed due to an individual such as this who has apparently lied. I’ll be interested to read your comments.
As an outsider, it appears as though everyone involved here was represented in court. The accuser by the prosecutor and the State Police investigator and the accused by the defense attorney. As I see it, the problem is that the accuser was determined by the court to be not trustworthy and to have manipulated evidence. Additionally, it appears as though the prosecutor failed to deliver on certain discovery issues. I see no "technicality" as mentioned here earlier. I've reviewed several SNAP releases and quotes in several large media outlets concerning this very case. It appears as though not only has SNAP requested that other victims come forward but the church has done so as well through the demands of SNAP. (Oddly enough I had never heard of SNAP or this Judy Block Jones, so I GOOGLED her. Good God, would you want someone pushing your cause and trying to do it legitimately and truthfully then find a video of her on YOUTUBE where she proudly refers to herself as a "SHIT STIRRER"? Not me.) I'm not talking about a simple request on an obscure web site somewhere. I'm talking about a front page or top of the hour news story, with pictures, from NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX and other major network affiliates and publications within large metropolitan areas with millions of viewers and readers, that this priest has presided in. Not one single person came forward. All of this is on the internet and easy to research. I don't see the problems that others see here. The problem I do see is that people who may have a legitimate claim will be silenced for fear of not being believed due to an individual such as this who has apparently lied. I’ll be interested to read your comments.
ReplyDeleteAnd how does one explain that the orginal complaint was said to have occured in an entirely different location and in a different year? I'll give you a hint...they changed it after they found out that Father Poandl had NEVER BEEN to the other location in his life. To me, that's more damaging than any "discovery" issues that occured with the medical records. My guess remains that the Prosecutor didn't mind this case being dismissed with prejudice because he knew he had nothing and didn't have the guts to drop it himself. He let the judge take the fall so the media and SNAP could say it was dismissed on a "technicality." He won't appeal it...you can take that to the bank.
ReplyDeleteAlso, Joe, that's a reasonable point you make above. However, the accusor was determined to have deiberatley manipulated the evidence...that much is true. And I would not be surprised if Father Poandl sues him for legal expenses. Which, despite what SNAP would have you believe are NOT paid for by the Catholic Church. Even if the accusor has no money, he may still sue to prove a point. And who could blame him?
ReplyDeleteAs an outsider, it appears as though everyone involved here was represented in court. The accuser by the prosecutor and the State Police investigator and the accused by the defense attorney. As I see it, the problem is that the accuser was determined by the court to be not trustworthy and to have manipulated evidence. Additionally, it appears as though the prosecutor failed to deliver on certain discovery issues. I see no "technicality" as mentioned here earlier. I've reviewed several SNAP releases and quotes in several large media outlets concerning this very case. It appears as though not only has SNAP requested that other victims come forward but the church has done so as well through the demands of SNAP. (Oddly enough I had never heard of SNAP or this Judy Block Jones, so I GOOGLED her. Good God, would you want someone pushing your cause and trying to do it legitimately and truthfully then find a video of her on YOUTUBE where she proudly refers to herself as a "SHIT STIRRER"? Not me.) I'm not talking about a simple request on an obscure web site somewhere. I'm talking about a front page or top of the hour news story, with pictures, from NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX and other major network affiliates and publications within large metropolitan areas with millions of viewers and readers, that this priest has presided in. Not one single person came forward. All of this is on the internet and easy to research. I don't see the problems that others see here. The problem I do see is that people who may have a legitimate claim will be silenced for fear of not being believed due to an individual such as this who has apparently lied. I’ll be interested to read your comments.
ReplyDeleteJoe, why are you afraid to post my comment?
ReplyDeleteThe prosecutor doesn't mind anything except football.
ReplyDelete@ Anon 9/14/2010 4:25 pm
ReplyDeleteWhat comment are you referring to?
I would be happy to post it for you.
Joe
As an outsider, it appears as though everyone involved here was represented in court. The accuser by the prosecutor and the State Police investigator and the accused by the defense attorney. As I see it, the problem is that the accuser was determined by the court to be not trustworthy and to have manipulated evidence. Additionally, it appears as though the prosecutor failed to deliver on certain discovery issues. I see no "technicality" as mentioned here earlier. I've reviewed several SNAP releases and quotes in several large media outlets concerning this very case. It appears as though not only has SNAP requested that other victims come forward but the church has done so as well through the demands of SNAP. (Oddly enough I had never heard of SNAP or this Judy Block Jones, so I GOOGLED her. Good God, would you want someone pushing your cause and trying to do it legitimately and truthfully then find a video of her on YOUTUBE where she proudly refers to herself as a "SHIT STIRRER"? Not me.) I'm not talking about a simple request on an obscure web site somewhere. I'm talking about a front page or top of the hour news story, with pictures, from NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX and other major network affiliates and publications within large metropolitan areas with millions of viewers and readers, that this priest has presided in. Not one single person came forward. All of this is on the internet and easy to research. I don't see the problems that others see here. The problem I do see is that people who may have a legitimate claim will be silenced for fear of not being believed due to an individual such as this who has apparently lied. I’ll be interested to read your comments.
ReplyDeleteSNAP put out a statement to the churches some time ago asking them to announce that Father Bob had been accused of this crime. They claimed if no one came forward it would help his case. No one did. They now say that's because victims are afraid. After the charges were dropped they said the fact that he was not immediately reinstated meant the church did not believe he was innocent. Now that he has been reinstated they put out a statement saying it was "reckless" and is meant to intimidate would be accusors. I wonder when the case is NOT appealed (and it won't be) if they'll finally admit they're wrong. Well...of course I know they won't. But one can dream. To put it bluntly...SNAP is full of CRAP!
ReplyDeleteIt would be interesting if this case does get appealed to a higher court. Then you will have to sit on pins and needles waiting to find out if you flung the "crap" at the correct recipient.
ReplyDeleteI'll reiterate. The case will NOT be appealed to a higher court. Here's how it works: In the event of an appeal the prosecution is not taking the defense to task in the higher court. The prosecutor would have to, in essence, take the JUDGE to court. To overturn his decision to dismiss with prejudice. If you read the court order you'll note that the Judge sites case study for his grounds to "dismiss with prejudice." A wet behind the ears prosecutor is not going to gamble his reputation (any more than he already has) by taking on the judge at a higher court. That's why the "with prejudice" part of the ruling is so crucial. That's also why it's so rarely used and why you know the judge feels strongly about his decision.
ReplyDeleteIs it just me or can you see a distinct difference in the people who post on this blog? Those who support the accuser use bad grammar, poor spelling and sentence structure. Those who support the accused are clear and concise. Just an observation.
ReplyDeleteAnother way to look at is that there are some people who are sitting at home carefully drafting (with proper sentence structure) a diatribe against an alleged victim of sexual abuse while supporting an alleged perpetrator of said abuse and rejoicing that the accusor has a "wet behind the ears prosecutor" to go against the best defense that money can buy. I hope that this prosecutor is not intimidated by you all, is not concerned with "reputation", but rather has the conviction to pursue litigation if he thinks it warranted.
ReplyDeleteI'll respond to your comment since I'm the one who made the "wet behind the ears comment." And let me say first of all, that I am not a Christian nor am I an apologist for the Catholic Church. What I am is someone who has known Father Bob and his family for over twenty years. And I have studied the facts of this case in enough detail to be thoroughly convinced that he did NOT commit this crime. I believe the accuser may have well been abused by someone as a child...but not by Father Bob. And all of your anger at the Catholic Church will not change that fact. I take absolutely no joy in the senseless pain that everyone has suffered as result of this. And as I've said previously, I believe the prosecutor will not appeal this case first and foremost because he knows the evidence is not there. And I hope he is not intimidated by an organization (SNAP) that lobbies to increase statute of limitations laws while simultaneously taking "donations" from the lawyers who stand to profit from trying those additional cases. Lastly, you can credit my "proper sentence structure" to Mrs. Gurske, my Elementary School teacher. I'll tell her you say, "hey!"
ReplyDeleteThat's the power of serial pedophiles. They are quite charming and this charm is one of the things they hold over their victims. Who would believe your good friend "Father Bob" raped a 10 year old boy. I have met Father Bob Poandl as well and I know that he is the embodiment of unapologetic evil. The same man who smiles and shakes your hand is the one who sodomizes children. What do you think a pedophile looks like? They don't look like beasts. If they did who would trust their child to them? They are charming and friendly like "Father Bob"
DeleteThank you for your response. I have to disagree about the level of detail covered with which you have looked at this case. The main piece of "evidence" is the court order written by the defense and signed by judge/prosecutor afterwards. The language is a defense biased account of their defamation of the accusor's character. We have not had both sides presented to us. However, we are wasting our time debating this here. Why don't we just wait and see what happens. Give my compliments to Mrs Gurske.
ReplyDeleteI've been informed that the name of the alleged victim was not to be made public. I have removed any comments which contain this persons name.
ReplyDeleteJoe
Joe, you have been informed wrong. It is in the ORDER which is a public document and posted on the Glenmary web site for all to read. We'll see if you do the right thing or not and re submit the posts.
ReplyDeleteFrom the ORDER, a public document available to anyone at anytime;
ReplyDelete12. The Court is of the opinion, and FINDS, that David Harper wen,t through the records and deleted that which he did not wish to disclose. This is consistent with the Court's own analysis of the records which were provided; The Court cannot accept his testimony that he simply picked up the records and forwarded them. Somebody in the chain of custody deleted records, and the Court FINDS that it was David Harper, the accuser. Moreover, whether he deleted the records or not, by his own t~stimony, he has deliberately failed and refused to furnish all records, from all sources, as the Court had repeatedly ordered.
Joe,
ReplyDeleteI figured you wouldn't have the courage to allow the excerpt from the ORDER to remain posted here as it does on the Glenmary web site.
TRUTH SUCKS SOMETIMES.
I have made the decision to keep the alleged victims name off of my blog, regardless of what is on the Glenmary website.
ReplyDeleteSorry to disappoint you "Anonymous".
Thanks,
Joe
http://statejournal.com/story.cfm?func=viewstory&storyid=85290
ReplyDeleteThe truth.
From www.dwv.org: "The judge's findings of fact were that the accuser was not credible and that he manipulated and falsified evidence and hid evidence from discovery," said Dennis Curry, one of the two lawyers who defended Father Poandl. "The statement that he is not credible," Curry explained, "means the accuser, according to the judge, is not to be believed as a matter of fact and law."
ReplyDeleteAlthough the judge has given the Roane County prosecutor 90 days to appeal the case to the West Virginia Supreme Court, Curry said he believes the chances of that happening are very slim. "The prosecutor would have to prove the Court exceeded its discretion in making the findings a fact," he said.
From the Times Record (Spencer, WV) online article dated 9/17/10: Curry said there were other problems with the alleged victim’s story, including claims he was a high school football star who attracted offers from Division I schools. Ashley said their investigator learned the accuser had not even played football after his sophomore year and made no significant contributions to the team.
“If somebody lies about something like that, it’s got to mean something,” Curry said.
“The judge concluded (the alleged victim) is not credible. You can’t trust him.” Curry said. “They were trying to manipulate the evidence to convict an innocent man. Only a person without a conscience would do something like that.”
Finally, from me: SNAP's main goal seems to be spreading poison, not ministering to the truly abused. Allegations are blindly supported regardless of the truth, shattering any possible sense of mission. How awesome it would be if SNAP could focus on healing for themselves and any true victims. How awesome it would be if SNAP could recognize the truly innocent they've maligned and then ask for forgiveness. SNAP and Judy Jones both owe a huge public apology to Fr. Bob Poandl.
How many people in a community does it take to protect a pedophile? This is classic. Try the victim. Do all that you can to ensure no one wants to come forward. Oops! Another victim came forward in Cincinnati. Father Bob Poandl is a pedophile and it will be proven.
DeleteFrom www.dwv.org: "The judge's findings of fact were that the accuser was not credible and that he manipulated and falsified evidence and hid evidence from discovery," said Dennis Curry, one of the two lawyers who defended Father Poandl. "The statement that he is not credible," Curry explained, "means the accuser, according to the judge, is not to be believed as a matter of fact and law."
ReplyDeleteAlthough the judge has given the Roane County prosecutor 90 days to appeal the case to the West Virginia Supreme Court, Curry said he believes the chances of that happening are very slim. "The prosecutor would have to prove the Court exceeded its discretion in making the findings a fact," he said.
From the Times Record (Spencer, WV) online article dated 9/17/10: Curry said there were other problems with the alleged victim’s story, including claims he was a high school football star who attracted offers from Division I schools. Ashley said their investigator learned the accuser had not even played football after his sophomore year and made no significant contributions to the team.
“If somebody lies about something like that, it’s got to mean something,” Curry said.
“The judge concluded (the alleged victim) is not credible. You can’t trust him.” Curry said. “They were trying to manipulate the evidence to convict an innocent man. Only a person without a conscience would do something like that.”
Finally, from me: SNAP's main goal seems to be spreading poison, not ministering to the truly abused. Allegations are blindly supported regardless of the truth, shattering any possible sense of mission. How awesome it would be if SNAP could focus on healing for themselves and any true victims. How awesome it would be if SNAP could recognize the truly innocent they've maligned and then ask for forgiveness. SNAP and Judy Jones both owe a huge public apology to Fr. Bob Poandl.
Many of the posts here seem to be made by someone on Poandl's defense - no one else would be likely to know the prosecutor is quite young. It should also be noted that to avoid having to submit the case to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in Rome, the witness MUST be trashed. Poandl is a member of a religious order. The head of the order, not the bishop of a diocese makes the determination. The ONLY reason he can decide not to send the case to Rome is if the witness is declared unreliable. This explains the stridency and viciousness of the attacks made on the victims - not just in this case but in most cases. There is considerable missing from the accounts being aired here. What is being aired has to be coming from the defense. They have not said that first Poandl denied he ever went to West Virginia. Then he said he went alone. Then he said it was a planned trip. Then he said he went from Kentucky in a Glenmary van. He said he was at a meeting that Saturday with the victim's parents, so it could not have been unplanned. It so happens the meeting he referred to was at that time always held on Fridays. It was actually the victim's parents who as leaders of the group a few years later moved the meeting date to Saturdays. They did not mention the records not in the first batch of records were from ERs and such for things like a broken nose, a fractured arm, and a cut finger. They weren't in the first batch because doctors offices don't normally provide records of treatments they don't directly provide - even though they have the copies. I did not know that. Did you? They also did not mention the victim had offered to sign a promise not to file a civil case - he just wants to get Poandl away from kids. They also did not mention that Poandl is already back at his parish - even though there are still two months where the case could proceed. Whether or not the case should proceed is not the point - just remember the Glenmaries profess to be meticulous in safeguarding their parishoners. What is meticulous about putting someone who is still possibly under a cloud back among potential victims?Who, by the way, were not told why Poandl was gone. Nor were the local Claxton Georgia newspapers told what he was charged with. Nor did they say that before this came to light, the victim's parents trusted Poandl more than anyone else they knew - and he has not been willing to face them.
ReplyDeleteGramps,
ReplyDeleteYou seem to be very familiar with the case. The only problem I see here, in all of these posts, is the little problem with that pesky Constitution. The burden of proof is on the State in this case, not the Defendant. Anybody ever hear of those silly words "innocent until proven guilty"? The problem, as I see it with this case and these posts, is that the media is involved and reporting and allowing the posting of erroneous information. Someone referred to the dismissal as a "technicality" when in actuality, it was not. As I read the ORDER, which offers a summation of the case, it looks like the State had somewhat of a weak case. I see where someone got upset because a defense attorney drafted the order. That's how it goes, one side has to draft the order and the other side has to review, correct, add, delete or amend it, then both parties sign off on it and it is sent to the judge. There simply is no impropriety there. The prosecutor could have drafted an order as well. I would simply ask him why he did not if I had any question as to the appropriateness of the order. I wonder what will be posted here if the State fails to file an appeal? The defense attorney would have had absolutely nothing to do with that. Will this priest still be subject to the ridicule of this blog? Oh, and as for SNAP, I find it odd that they are funded by law firms who prosper off of representation of those abused by priests in civil litigation. Somewhat of a referral source isn't it? I think I shall order the transcripts as this case is worth reviewing further. It will be interesting to read the actual testimony of the witnesses during the hearing.
Reply to Anonymous number "?":
ReplyDelete1. You seem to be pleased to present yourself a legally knowledgeable. Your reference to the constitution would carry more weight if the constitution said anything about innocent until proven guilty. That is in our law - which comes from congress - not the constitution.
2. You ignore the Catholic Church's need to trash witnesses to avoid review in Rome.
3. You ignore placing Poandl back in a position where other children could be harmed.
4. You ignore Poandl's changing story.
5. You throw up organizations like SNAP as a smokescreen when they don't have any direct involvement.
6. You ignore the irrelevance of the medical records in question, and that the issue of why there was discrepancy in numbers of pages is explained.
7. The ORDER (your caps, not mine) should have been written by the judge. He signed it. The order is not written by the officers of the court.
8. The case cited in the order has caveats written into it which make it inapplicable in such a serious matter (the cited case was over money embezzled from Burger King, not three counts of felonies returned by a grand jury with a possibility of life imprisonment. And yes, sodomizing a 10 year old boy seems to me to warrant that penalty)
9. In reference to SNAP - only civil cases result in money for plaintiff lawyers. In criminal cases, it is the defense lawyer that gets rich - even if the defendant is convicted. In this case, Anita Ashley in West Virginia and Dinsmore & Schol in Ohio. I don't know Ashley's billing rate, but Dinsmore's is about $625-$650 an hour.
For the record Gramps...I'm the one who posted that the prosecutor was young. And as I said in an earlier post, I'm not part of the defense team. I used a highly powerful and secretive spy tool to retrieve my information. It's called...get ready....GOOGLE!!!
ReplyDeleteFurthermore Gramps...to quote you "Whether or not the case should proceed is not the point" I disagree. I actually think this is an EXTREMELY important point. If the case proceeds, of course, we'll have to wait and see how it turns out. However, if it does NOT it will be clear that the prosecution knows their case is weak and the accuser is not credible. And I'm going to be sure to find every internet article where you and SNAP have copied and pasted your regurgitated rhetoric and demand you both apologize to Father Poandl. Even though I'm certain it will never be forthcoming.
ReplyDelete(Sorry for three posts in a row but...) Also Gramps, I'd like to address the part of your argument where you claim that because Father Poandl changed his recounting of how and when he traveled to the area, that proves his guilt. I'd like to remind you that the man has spent the better part of 40 years traveling from state to state as a missionary priest. Do you really think that because he can't recall the events that happened 20 years ago that proves anything? In fact, the reason he doesn't remember is because nothing remarkable happened! As far as the expense of his defense attorneys...I hope you and your friends are preparing to take up a collection for the "accuser." He may end up having to pay for those expenses before this over.
ReplyDeleteGramps,
ReplyDeleteJust an observation here but I'm guessing why Anon. wrote ORDER with caps, as copied from the actual ORDER in the court file -
"ORDER DISMISSING CASE WITH PREJUDICE"
To previous anonymous (of the past 4 posts). You seem to be confident that this case will not proceed, and you think that if that happens Poandl deserves an apology. Shall we expect the same apology from you if the case does go forward (for your rude comments). Also, this is a criminal case ie. state vs poandl. I don't think that the alleged victim would be responsible for the defense fees if the ruling is in favor of poandl just as the alleged victim will not recieve money if the ruling is in favor of the prosecution. Why are so many here hoping not only that poandl is cleared, but that this alleged victim suffers (monetarily/otherwise). You might have known Poandl for a long time, but every perpetrator of any crime has people that have known and loved them for a long time. The bottom line is you don't know what happened and you should try to show your support for him without attacking the alleged victim.
ReplyDeleteFor the record I only wrote the first three of the last four post and I'm pretty sure I didn't "attack" the accuser other than referring to him as "not credible" which the judge said himself. I'm also not sure which comments were "rude" since every point made was in direct response to Grandpa. As for the legal fees comment, what I'm referring to is that it's quite possible Father Poandl will sue to recoup his legal fees. Despite previous comments about the Church paying for his legal defense...the truth is he's responsible for it. Imagine, if you were accused of a crime you didn't commit and to in order to defend yourself you lost your entire life savings as well as burdened your friends and family. What would you do? Lastly, I will speak for all the defenders of Father Poandl who are on this and other comment boards. We did not start this fight. We were drawn into it by Judy Jones, David Clohessy and the rest of the SNAP gang (I'm guessing you're one of the above, right?). So we will stay vigilant, unyielding and we will not apologize. When they (you) leave Father Poandl alone....we'll move on too. Until then...
ReplyDeleteI am none of the above. Are you telling the truth about Poandl paying for the legal fees? Do you actually know that or are you just writing whatever you want? I thought that order priests (such as poandl) are vowed to poverty. Therefore, I have no idea why he would have "life savings" to pay for legal defense that the church is not covering. Feel free to tell me otherwise.
ReplyDelete"Poverty" as in not being a Bill Gates - they still have to save for eventual retirement (even pay into Social Security), purchase cars, clothing, etc. Being a missionary is a profession, just like being a truck driver, and they have the right to prepare for retirement.
DeleteI don't know about the vow of poverty or how that works. I do know for a fact he's paying his own legal fees with help from his friends and family. I know how much they are...and suffice it to say they are astronomical. That's the truth.
ReplyDeleteThe "anonymous" above is NOT telling the truth. The fees for both Dinsmore & Schol and Ashley are being paid by Glenmary. The money comes from Sunday collections and - mostly - from fundraising drives... such as the one they sent Poandl on to keep him out of state when the initial investigation was going on and they (the Glenmaries) didn't want the West Virginia detective to be able to interview Poandl.
ReplyDeleteSince anonymous seems to know Poandl, he should ask him about a few things which are not a part of this case - though they probably should be.
Ask about Ontario, Canada in the 70's.
Ask about John Loftus.
Ask about Hugo, Oklahoma and 1starnet.com
He may go a little pale.
I stand behind what I wrote. I also imagine there's a good reason why they're not part of this case. I also can't take much of what you say seriously since you're the same person who believes I must be part of the defense team in a diabolical plot to smear the accusers credibility so the case won't go to "review" in Rome. A case that was dismissed with prejudice and has already been reviewed by an independent committee outside of the church allowing Father Poandl to return to his duties. Now, up until now I have not posted any of the information that I also know about the accuser in this case. If we're going to start putting up stuff that "wasn't in the case" I'm happy to play along. You might go a little pale yourself.
ReplyDeleteHi, my name is Judy Jones. This is the first time I have posted on this site. Also. to let you know, anytime that I post a comment to an article, I always post my real name.
ReplyDeleteI work with survivors of clergy sex abuse, and I am constantly reaching out to others who may have been abused and who are still suffering in silence. So I post my contact info too.
.and so once again, I urge anyone who suspects, has witnessed, or who may have been harmed by Fr Poandl, to please contact the police. It is a crime to sexually abuse a child.
I can assure you all, the truth WILL come out.
..Also.... grandpa, would you mind emailing me...?
Thank you, Judy Jones, SNAP Midwest Associate Director, 636-433-2511, snapjudy@gmail.com
"Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests"
Grandpa, anonymous was not lying. Fr Bob is in fact responsible for paying all his legal fees.
ReplyDeleteSome priests have committed horrendous crimes against young people (and a very few against children) but when did SNAP ever say that a priest just might be innocent? They can't all be guilty especially in the face of multi thousand dollar payouts. A few alleged victims, at least, are 'playing the slots'. Get real, some people like money enough to tell a few lies and some have and some priests are inside because of it. Like Fr Bob said, trying to nail him makes the next real victim less likely to succeed.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous, you are mistaken...this case has nothing to do with getting money for a victim, who you say is falsely accusing Poandl of sexually abusing him. This is about getting a child predator in jail.
ReplyDeleteIt is costing the victim money, not getting him money.
OH, and btw, we/SNAP do NOT want anyone to falsely accuse a priest of sexual abuse. That would be a defeat for all victims who really have been sexually abused by priest. ok?
Judy Jones, SNAP Midwest Associate Director,
636-433-2511, snapjudy@gmail.com
If you wish to learn more about the crises of kids being sexually abused by clergy, please check out this web site.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.bishopaccountability.org/
Judy Jones, SNAP Midwest Associate Director, 636-433-2511, snapjudy@gamil.com
After 14months and much publication of the case against Fr. Poandl, no one else has come forward and the indictment was published widely due to the efforts of SNAP. They found the witness to be credible and automatically found Fr. Poandl guilty. Interesting, I thought a person was innocent until proven guilty, but that doesn't seem to be the way SNAP works, it assumes the priest is automatically guilty because the accuser "seems credile" and how does Judy know this,...did she talk to him? as for the comments above from grandpa....I don't know where you get your information....but Glenmary doesn't have access to Sunday collections as far as I know...pastor would be a little upset to let them have that access. And how do you know that the comunity he belongs to paid his expenses....do you kow something the rest of us don't know. Do you have access to inside information that you feel compelled to share with us....where did you get the information as to how his lawyers were paid...or are you just slinging more misinformation and hoping that something will stick....know the facts, the truth before making such outlandish statements...but then again, are you really interested in the facts? The truth?
ReplyDeleteHaving read through the recent posts, just thought I'd add a commment as a clarification about the legal fees. Glenmary is NOT a "relgious order" whose members take a Vow of Poverty. They are a Society of Apostolic Life, and Fr. Poandl has had to take out a LOAN from Glenmary to pay for his legal fees, which he will be repaying month by month for the rest of his life. Anyone who wants to support Fr. Poandl might consider donating to him directly or by sending a check to Glenmary, and writing on the memo line, "To defray Fr. Poandl's legal expenses". He will be long dead, before he could ever hope to pay off what he has BORROWED from Glenmary in order to hire his legal defense team.
ReplyDeleteThose of us who know the defense's side of this case, would be perfectly happy to have the whole truth come out; there is just a little over one month left for the Prosecutor to appeal the Judge's decision to the State Supreme Court. By December 3rd, that window will have closed. At least in eternity, Fr.'s innocence will be upheld by the Highest Judge, and clearly seen - at last! - by all.
For all of those who supported fr bob god bless you and for the wrongful accuser and his familyt they should be ashamed of themselves he is the worlds nicest most respecting man and would never hurt anyone or anything in anyway he is so loving and caring and respectful of everyone he would go to the ends of the earth to help a perfect stranger and this accuser and his family should be ashamed of themselves for making such a noble loving respectful mans live so painful for all that time he had to deal with this families garbage stories I speak on behalf of father bobs whole family when I say that we all love him and always will and never beleived a word of this trashy lie and we never stopped loving and praying for you
ReplyDeleteAnonymous, you are very correct, about 99% of child predators are "so loving and caring and respectful of everyone and would go to the ends of the earth to help a perfect stranger"..
ReplyDeleteexcept for one thing, they also sexually abuse kids.
They have to appear caring and do good things in order to continue to sexually abuse children. They have to be nice to gain the trust of their victim and the victim's family.
Judy Jones.
For those are would like to learn more about the affects of child sex abuse, and how it can happen, please watch the Oprah show today. It is expected to be her most powerful show yet !
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To my knowledge, no appeal has been filed with the State Supreme Court, no new abusers have come forward, and the 90 days have now passed from the filing of the Court Order. What a relief for all of us who know the whole story, meaning all the evidence the defense had in hand, which includes a letter, signed and dated by the accuser's parents, that prove beyond any shadow of a doubt exactly where Father was on the night this alleged crime was supposed to have taken place - at a Marriage Encounter conference, which was attended by the accuser's parents, no less, who then wrote to thank Father for his inspiring presentation on his just-completed-pilgrimage to the Holy Land. All this, while the mother testified and swore to the fact when the accusation was made last year, that her husband had not been at home that fateful afternoon when Father stopped by and asked her son to go with him to WV, that Father picked up the lad in the late afternoon/early evening, and that she informed her husband of this when he came home late from work that evening. A TISSUE OF LIES. Those of us who know what the defense lawyers had in hand, wish they had had the chance to go to trial and blow this case out of the water, clearing Father's name once and for all.
ReplyDeleteSorry - in line 1, that should have been "no new accusers have come forward".
ReplyDeleteI will write one last post on this board and then I will let this go. I'll refer to three of my previous posts where I guaranteed, despite what Judy Jones of SNAP promised, that this case would NOT be appealed to a higher court. They are: September 14, 2010 3:47 PM, September 15, 2010 7:34 AM, September 15, 2010 7:03 PM.
ReplyDeleteThe above anonymous is incorrect about the case having closed back in December. In fact, it closed, officially, three days ago. Here's what happened, for the record:
The original ruling was delayed in September and the prosecution was given 90 days to appeal before it became official. The prosecutor asked for an additional 30 days in December (which he was granted) to file the appeal. He did NOT. Once the ruling took effect in January he had another 30 days to appeal it, giving him a total of 150 days (5 MONTHS) to appeal the Judge's decision. HE DID NOT.
If SNAP's claim that Father Poandl was cleared on a "technicality" were true, and the prosecutor really had a case against him, he would most certainly have appealed. HE DID NOT. Case closed.
As previously promised, I'm now demanding that Judy Jones and SNAP offer a public apology to Father Poandl for smearing his good name and pronouncing him guilty, without proof, because of their insatiable desire to wage war against the Catholic Church. I have said it before and I will say it again, I am NOT an apologist for the Catholic Church and the atrocities that have been committed by some of their priests. However, just because some of them have committed crimes does not mean that ALL of them have committed crimes. Father Bob Poandl is living proof of that.
What do you say Judy? We're waiting....
Thanks for the update. It now seems clear that Poandl is innocent of all charges.
ReplyDeleteJoe
I have know Father Bob since 1975 as a small kid and he was around me and my 4 sibling a lot and he blessed our lives so much! he took us places, told us funny stories, had us help pain houses for the poor and we spend many summers in Georgia doing work. I NEVER saw any abuse of any kind and I hope this obviously seriously whack job kid gets what he deserves. I am a christian and I know we are all sinners, but to maliciously try to destroy a life for no reason is beyond forgiveness from me.
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Judy Jones, SNAP Midwest Associate Director, snapjudy@gmail.com
http://www.cbsatlanta.com/story/16981756/midwest-couple-drives-to-georgia-to-protest-priest
ReplyDeleteFr Poandl accused of sexually abusing another victim.
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Finally Poandl has been arrested...
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Everyone assumes that when someone cries rape it must be true. And in most cases it is, but not in this one.Rape or sexual abuse of any kind is horrific and those who commit these crimes should be prosecuted. However, every case is different and it must be proved. It used to be that everyone was innocent until proven guilty....how sad that it is now guilty until proven innocent.
ReplyDeleteI have known Father Bob Poandl my entire life. It was proven that Father Bob Poandl was not with the boy the night in question or even in the same state as him. He is a holy and good person who lives his faith. He always tries to help out those who need it, even if it means he will go without. These facts (that he wasn't in the same state as the boy) weren't even allowed to be in print because the press jumps on the bandwagon and prints what they assume to be true. This sexual abuse didn't happen.
I feel really sorry for the alleged "victim" because I believe that he was abused, but by somebody else. He accused an innocent man, thereby ruining his life.
It is ironic that Poandl was convicted primarily on the testimony of a private investigator hired by ... Glenmary Missionars president Dorsey in 2009. In the interview, Poandl admitted taking the victim out of state (but could not remember where), and also admitted he routinely took children along on his car trips 'to help him stay awake'. And Dan Dorsey himself testified that Poandl had his own car - so he would not have had to travel 120 miles to pick up the F-150 the defense attorney claimed he got from the Glemmaries Vanceburg KY facility, then drive another 120 miles to return it On top of the 150 miles each way to get to Spencer.
ReplyDeleteThe really sad part is that Poandl has nephews - and if they were ever molested would never dare to tell their family - they would be shunned. "There are none so blind as those who will not see."
Absolutely heartbreaking, and undeniably emotion, not fact- or reason-based. Clearly, most bloggers here do not know the circumstances of DH's life just prior to the accusation. It explains quite a lot. He kept himself out of jail by blaming someone else, an innocent man, Fr. Bob Poandl, for all the mistakes and criminal behavior he committed and was about to be charged. Now, Fr. Bob's life has been taken away, simply because a young man became desperate to avoid deserved consequences. There's no coincidence about the timing and the accusation itself. It's obvious why the accuser's and his family's story kept changing...it really is difficult to keep track of so many lies. "Oh the web we weave...." If you who stand in judgement only knew who you were talking about, on both sides of this case, I know for a fact the opinions against Fr. Poandl would change. It's shameful.
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